thunder games [Archive]

Moose

10-23-2006, 01:17 AM

we lost 3-6. it got a bit unsavoury at times in the 3rd.
ivan handed out a spanking to someone who had punched him in the mush earlier.
i say spanking when it was more of a wwe wrestling match.
we scored a great shorthanded goal though.
the thing is though,like invicta,this was streathams main team so they were pretty good.
they had won 5 out of 5 prior to this game i was told.
i did enjoy the game though.

spooch

10-23-2006, 01:25 AM

glad to hear ivan making his mark and getting noticed lol
i was going to go to the thunder game but yabba offerd a lift at the last minute to guilford how can one say no
from what i hear hurley sounds promasing for a spout in the lightning team i think we need some help the players are tiering to quick on sundays games after playing saturdays

Moose

10-23-2006, 02:00 AM

NLG

10-23-2006, 05:13 PM

glad to hear ivan making his mark and getting noticed lol
i was going to go to the thunder game but yabba offerd a lift at the last minute to guilford how can one say no

Bet you wish you had though. ;)

Seriously though, despite the loss, it was a great game to watch.

If it hadn't have been for a poor first period, it could have been a whole different story.

I love watching Thunder. They're so unpredictable!

Moose

10-23-2006, 08:14 PM

Bet you wish you had though. ;)

Seriously though, despite the loss, it was a great game to watch.

If it hadn't have been for a poor first period, it could have been a whole different story.

I love watching Thunder. They're so unpredictable!

spot on Nippy.i couldn't agree more.
sometimes watching MKT is like venturing into heartattack country though.
the old ticker does a merry dance at times.:p

skater mum

10-23-2006, 08:23 PM

I did update the forums last night - I try and update where ever I can each Sunday night

spooch

10-23-2006, 08:29 PM

Bet you wish you had though. ;)

Seriously though, despite the loss, it was a great game to watch.

If it hadn't have been for a poor first period, it could have been a whole different story.

I love watching Thunder. They're so unpredictable!

yes i do it was a long drive back lucky i wasnt on my tod as it would of been horriable driving back after a poor show but me yabba and his lad had a good conversation on the way back

NLG

10-23-2006, 11:42 PM

spot on Nippy.i couldn't agree more.
sometimes watching MKT is like venturing into heartattack country though.
the old ticker does a merry dance at times.:p

I'm sure Thunder are the reason my blood pressure is so high too. But don't tell my doctor. He'll probably stop me from going!

Fred2

10-24-2006, 09:13 PM

Sad that Streatham players got blind sinded and knocked sensless with 30 secs left. You have to realize these players are amateurs and have jobs to go to next day. Sensless, and frankly a cheap shot

bonzo

10-25-2006, 06:16 AM

quite frankly that is wrong there was nothing wrong with either hit,they were right infront of me.
Neither team are angles but there was nothing wrong with those hits ,certainly was not charging

Piglet

10-25-2006, 08:58 AM

There was nothing wrong with that hit on Metcalf, it was just a big hit. Accidents happen, it is a contact support after all!

EyeSee

10-25-2006, 11:32 AM

Streatham were playing up to the ZT rules I'm afraid, throwing themselves about theatrically to get penalties on Thunder. The 'man down' was particulalrly annoying. I hate to see someone injured and was furious that there was no first aider available. But after a prolonged lie down he got up and skated back, seeming not too badly shaken at all. Maybe he is just a trouper, but if he really wasn't injured that is as low as you can get.

Being a binman for the oppo's I tend to be protective of them when in my charge, but I was getting a little narked by the end of the game by their antics and the 'you don't seem to realise you've got to come to our place' comment.

Piglet

10-25-2006, 11:41 AM

Good point there, eyeSee. I also noticed that every time they played the 'man down' tactic, they seemed to fling their stick across the ice, as if to add to the drama. I thought at one point the ref was spot on, and told one of their players to get up!

Streatham have never been a very pleasant team, and it's certainly not a friendly rink to visit! Despite the score, and Thunder's lacklustre performance in parts, I thought Thunder did well against some of the digs and cheapshots!

NLG

10-25-2006, 12:22 PM

Neither team could claim to be the innocent party during that game. But have to agree with Bonzo and Piglet, both hits looked clean from where we were.

Desperate Dan

10-25-2006, 02:00 PM

spot on Nippy.i couldn't agree more.
sometimes watching MKT is like venturing into heartattack country though.
the old ticker does a merry dance at times.:p

You should try watching Hurricanes!!!!

Moose

10-25-2006, 02:03 PM

I have to agree that streatham's sneaky behaviour borders on the unacceptable,
and they do seem to have their share of blatant playacting divas too.
it's a pity because Redskins are the main team at Streatham,
and as such have better resources than our own second string.
they should use the money more wisely in my view.

bonzo

10-25-2006, 03:25 PM

I was actually noy looking forward to coming on here i thought I might have reacted abit strongly in my last post as I was still rather annoyed about something yesterday sorry if I did:blush:

Fred2

10-26-2006, 09:19 PM

I know the Streatham coach, not exactly a softy in his own day, called the ref over to remind him that his players all had jobs etc to go to the next day and couldn't afford days off for hockey injuries. And that shouldn't be needed, no matter how the fans paid to get in.

When defeat is unavoidable accpt it gracefully.

I don't know of any hockey players who fain injury, that's an unwritten rule in the sport and seperates it from other sports

bonzo

10-26-2006, 10:09 PM

your post makes me laugh:) defeat is never unavoidable.
you think our players don't have jobs as well?
feigning injury is just what it looked like and I was inches from where it happened,i wonder how close you were to the incident?
Of course your players are all angels aren't they?

Fred2

10-26-2006, 10:21 PM

your post makes me laugh:)
you think our players don't have jobs as well?

Who know's, maybe butchers for example :D

bonzo

10-26-2006, 10:32 PM

two hard but fair hits,which i suppose your lads never do eh? perhaps they should be playing a different sport?:)

Fred2

10-26-2006, 11:24 PM

One blind side cheap hit, I guess we'll just have to disagree. Tell me you don't cheer when there's an injury :bruised:

bonzo

10-27-2006, 07:55 AM

I am very insulted by that question:mad:

yes we will have to differ,at that satge of the game when it was nearly over If I was playing I probably wouldn't have bothered doing that check but there was nothing illegal about it,should have been more physical early on ,perhaps the score might have been different.
Roll on the 12th november.we may even have a full bench then:)

Piglet

10-27-2006, 09:09 AM

I don't know of any hockey players who fain injury, that's an unwritten rule in the sport and seperates it from other sports

No, any decent player wouldn't feign an injury, but I saw plenty of that from Streatham on Sunday....one of which was promptly told by the Ref to get up!!

Yes, our players have jobs, and I think it's funny coming from a Streatham fan, commenting that our players could be "butchers", lol! streatham have always been a horrible team to play against...matches their rink and surroundings I suppose!

Fred2

10-27-2006, 07:43 PM

No, any decent player wouldn't feign an injury, but I saw plenty of that from Streatham on Sunday....one of which was promptly told by the Ref to get up!!

Yes, our players have jobs, and I think it's funny coming from a Streatham fan, commenting that our players could be "butchers", lol! streatham have always been a horrible team to play against...matches their rink and surroundings I suppose!

Come on Piglet just banter. I think the teams that adjust earliest to the new ZT will or could build a lead that others slower to grasp the the new rules may never recover. Personally I don't care for good hockey but enjoy the skill side of the game. The hit in the last 30 secs was not called for even if you were to believe it was clean ( which I don't) it's like hitting a guy on a touch up icing, just not done.

Hope it's not a windy day down there piglet ;)

EyeSee

10-27-2006, 10:41 PM

Most times games are a little bit this a little bit that, but Streatham just seemed to be playing the ref to push ZT their way. Gamesmanship?, yep, just as five aces are.......

bonzo

10-28-2006, 08:14 AM

I just hope we never play like that,to that extent,I would rather play honestly and get beat than play like that

NLG

10-28-2006, 01:43 PM

You should try watching Hurricanes!!!!

Can't say a Hurricanes game has ever had quite the same effect on me as a Thunder game. Dude getting penalties was hilariously funny though. :D

I love Hurley

10-28-2006, 03:40 PM

It was kinda sad to see. Streatham have a talented team but their attitude was poor, a shame. Their fans were not much better, by the way what an earth were they chanting?; drumming and an "indian" war cry! hillarious!

Fred2

10-28-2006, 08:19 PM

I just hope we never play like that,to that extent,I would rather play honestly and get beat than play like that

I don't think you have to worry, with the talents level ( remove the base tactics) the option won't be yours :cool:

Only have to wait until the 12th Nov for the retrun leg

bonzo

10-28-2006, 10:50 PM

what exactly do you mean by that?

Fred2

10-29-2006, 01:22 AM

Nothing at all I'm sure every one being pretty excited over the last game would like to see more of the same, maybe you wouldn't want the same result though :) :)

By the way one of the pre requisites to take a run at a guy is this ( in case your not aware of it,) the player must have the puck of just have passed it on, your aware of that point. You can't just say hey i think I'll run that guy and blind side him, you understand that subtle but important point ?

bonzo

10-29-2006, 07:01 AM

this will be my last post so I will say.everyone else I have spoken to agrees that it should not have been charging.Both players were standing still.

Fred2

10-29-2006, 03:34 PM

this will be my last post so I will say.everyone else I have spoken to agrees that it should not have been charging.Both players were standing still.

Both playrs were standing still and then they fell down. :p

The guy that was blind sided was the left winger who was out at the point covering the D and when one of the young Streatham players looked like he was going to get taken advantge of started to skate over and thats when it happened. He didn't have the puck which makes him not hittable ( if that's a word) and vunerable to the cheap shot

Over and out

Piglet

10-29-2006, 04:21 PM

Fred, I really do find your comments amusing actually. Do the words pot, kettle and black mean anything to you? For a Stratham fan to be criticising anyone of cheapshots!?!?! Is it April the 1st!!!

Agree (can't remember who said it) about the fans with the drum and the war cry type screeching that was going on! Have you ever been to an away game at Streatham??? Where they all bang on the plexi and screech like monkeys at the zoo!? It's well funny!

Piglet

10-29-2006, 05:50 PM

Out of interest, just found these posts on the Redskins forum...

Just back (damn you M1 roadworks).

MK resorted to cheapshots aided and abetted by pathetic officiating. Some disgusting fouls went unpunished and those seen were for the most part, underpunished. An imbecile impersonating a linesman reckoned a stick to the throat was waist height. Yeah in sled hockey maybe.

Spours got chucked out late in the third for handbags.

Just back from the game. Well done to the lads, brilliant performance considering the crap referring. Milton Keynes crapland are without doubt the dirtiest bunch of thugs in this league. I hope Metcalfe is okay, only 35 seconds remaining to the game and was completely taken out.

What a game. Our boys are quite simply the Best there is. They went up very short handed with a number of players not there for various reasons but they were in great spirits on the coach and it carried onto the ice. We went up 4-0 within the first 10 minutes with some cracking goals. 2nd period they came into us very hard with far too many cheap and evil shots at our boys. Dean had to call the ref on many occassions and remind him of the new rules and that our boys have actually got to be able to walk to work college or uni in the morning and that being put into hospital wasnt the idea of a hockey game. One linesman was so busy practising his fancy footwork and spinning on the ice he missed quite a few calls - It really was 3 blind mice on the ice. At the end of the day WE WON - UP YOURS MK. Cant wait till they come down here.

Genius. Sounds like a great result for Streatham summed up in the most eloquent of fashions by one of their most radiant supporters. Now I have an aversion to MK teams at all levels - there's something odd in the water there that makes their people a bit odd.

Barry Spours had a fight? Hope he fared better than when he played for the Madness and took on the mighty Ratcliffe.

Hmm...interesting!

Lightning Lee

10-29-2006, 05:57 PM

Wow! what a classy bunch of fans they are......whats that saying....pot....kettle....etc :blush: ;)

Piglet

10-29-2006, 06:03 PM

Thats exactly what I thought Lee.

Moose

10-30-2006, 01:04 AM

there's only one thing i hate more than a bad loser,and that's a bad winner.
what a sad bunch of blinkered prats.
seems like the nasty,cheapshotting bullies dont like it when a team stands up to them and their sneakiness.
and they certainly dont like it when they get some of it back,the poor,poor dears.
but then that's what happens when you stand up to bullies,they go running off to mummy for a whinge.

i would be laughing if it wasn't so pathetic.:angry:

Fred2

10-30-2006, 02:04 AM

irvinefightfan

10-30-2006, 09:26 AM

Fred

How many pairs of rose tinted glasses do you own?? Wasn't at this season game so can't remember but did come down to streatham last season where three of our team were injured due to over heavy boarding and checking by the redskins. At least two of those were out for several games. Having seen thunder play against every opposition in this league last season your comments about them being the dirtiest team are a joke. Have you ever seen potty, bracknell, invicta?? With or without ZT ED1 is a physical league and all teams have games were they dish out the physical stuff rather than play the game the result is almost alway that they lost. If you or the coach don't like it then get out of this league and either play with the big boys in the EPL or go and play poo sticks or something as dangerous!!!

I love Hurley

10-30-2006, 12:32 PM

I know this is going to surprise you, but other don't quite see it that way. Is there any room in your sorld for a diversion of opinion, or are you just right all the time.

The league, in fact the hockey world has gone to an updated system which favours skill over brawn. Now for the skilled teams that's fine(check the league standing for those with the skill) but then again the teams lacking the skating and skills they try and revert to the old ways, it doesn't work

;)

The thing is, no-one is saying that it should be a game for fighters, or thugs. The argument is that your saying Thunder were playing with cheap shots all the time, and that the hit was illegall. Hockeys IS a physical game, the hit fair ,yet when any Streatham player got touched they were going down like they'd been shot by the sniper on the grassy knoll!!!, whats more cheap than that? :confused: Streatham played well.:clap: no doubt. (the hit was at the end of the game so maybe no point, as Bonzo pointed out), but its still allowed in the rules ( word of advice-keep your head up at all times, one of hockeys first rules).

If the refs were that bad are you trying to say you shouldnt have won? and how come you you CAN'T wait til the return game?? obviously its not gona be rough;) so actually looking towards some skilled hockey from the 'skins

Bertie

10-30-2006, 03:46 PM

One thing I have noticed with these ZT rules is the skill level showing of amateur dramatics and outright play acting when people are touched.... Now Fred that isn't skillful hockey in my books that is skillful acting...... and something the refs need to wake up to...... are the Streatham boys members of the Streatham amateur dramatics society cos that would explain alot !

Anyway Fred thanks for the entertainment on this fred ..... fred... keep it coming :)

Fred2

10-30-2006, 05:38 PM

Anyway Fred thanks for the entertainment on this fred ..... fred... keep it coming :)

Fills my day for me :D

But the new ZT rules have really sorted players. To play now you have to be able to skate and skate well if a guy gets away you can't restrain him with your stick, any stick contacting above the waist is a penalty, a hand off the stick is a penalty. So positioning and the ability to get your self in a position to make the other player go around you is essential. And thats a higher calibre of skating needed now than ever before. Unfortunitly many can't do that, neither the agility or the foot speed and guess what they get called. It should result in the future with better players as the youth come through the system but for now it's going to send a lot of players to the box. Of course that doesn't have any thing to do with blind siding a guy that wa always a penalty

NLG

10-30-2006, 06:09 PM

Fills my day for me :D

That's obvious. ;)

Piglet

10-30-2006, 07:35 PM

What I dont get is why you seem to worry about this forum Fred? Why spend so much time on here if you're obviously a Streatham fan. We don't waste our time with pointless posts on your forum! Why dont you worry more about your own team than berating others? Streatham are and always have been one of the dirtiest nastiest teams in our league and probably always will be. I find it funny you accuse us of not being able to see anything other than our own opinion when you seem to own countless rose tinted glasses to have the opinion that you do. Either that or you're just ignorant...I havent quite decided yet!

Fred2

10-30-2006, 08:37 PM

. Either that or you're just ignorant...I havent quite decided yet!

Now now piglet don't get personnel try and restrain yourself jst like the players must in the new ZT

You might like to watch this video of the new standards of play found at

http://www.usahockey.com/usa_hockey/usahweb/main/usa_hockey/front_newdeal_071206/

spooch

10-30-2006, 11:51 PM

can some one tell me who thunder are playing this sunday please and what time face of is thank you

Bubbs

10-31-2006, 12:20 AM

Peterborough Islanders.

face off at 6.30pm

spooch

10-31-2006, 12:34 AM

thank you bubbles ill see you there this sunday
im popping my thunder cherry lol and coming to watch um for the first time heard some good reports comming from the thunderdome after a thunder games

I love Hurley

10-31-2006, 09:00 AM

You might like to watch this video of the new standards of play found at

http://www.usahockey.com/usa_hockey/usahweb/main/usa_hockey/front_newdeal_071206/[/QUOTE]

No-one is denying that ZT (eventually, because its a bit OT at the mo) is better for the game. The USHL is the same as the NCAA rules and does reward skill rather than than ?goon tactics in the CHL, however the CHL is the best place to learn your trade as a junior. It is a more demanding leauge therefore creates better players. OK,Bobby Orr, eventually had his NHL career cut short because of an injury picked up playing major junior, but look at guys like Rick Nash and Sidney Crosby, these guys are extremley tough, from playing in the CHL. Hockey is physical thats part of it, deal with it. Yes we dont want mindless violence, nobody does, but you cant take toughness out of hockey. You think the 'skins got bullied?:( Should have seen what Crosby had to deal with in Rimouski, however he stood up took the hits and played through it (we're not talking about stick swinging, just good hard hits), stood up for himself too, just like his first year in the NHL. He didnt go down crying every time he was touched. You want skilled hockey watch a womens game, the olympic final was probably one of the best games ever, no body checks, but theres still contact. If you dont like physical sports try somthing else.

ROYLE#13

10-31-2006, 09:19 AM

If you dont like physical sports try somthing else.

Bowls? or is there possibly too much contact between the balls (no pun intended):closedeye

I love Hurley

10-31-2006, 09:31 AM

You might like to watch this video of the new standards of play found at

http://www.usahockey.com/usa_hockey/usahweb/main/usa_hockey/front_newdeal_071206/

The video link is the same as the NHL one, except the NHL'S has a nice bit about diving and embellishment Piglet,;) the "New rule enforcment for '06-07 "

www.nhl.com/nhl/app?service=page&page=video

Theres a bit there where a carolina? player(can't remember) nails a penguin, but dosnt get called because it was a legal hit, surpising i thought:D